Well-Meaning But Clueless White People

We wanted Out There to be inclusive, and we failed. Now what?

 
a handful of Out There stories have been by or about people of color — but far too few. In 2019 we want to do better. (Photos courtesy Jen Kinney, Rahawa Haile, Tiffany Duong, katrin redfern, susan shain, and kayla bordelon)

a handful of Out There stories have been by or about people of color — but far too few. In 2019 we want to do better. (Photos courtesy Jen Kinney, Rahawa Haile, Tiffany Duong, katrin redfern, susan shain, and kayla bordelon)

 
 

The outdoors industry is notoriously white, male and affluent. And the podcasting industry isn’t always much better at giving space for diverse voices.

Part of our mission at Out There is to make the concept of ‘the outdoors’ more accessible to all. But so far, we don’t have a great track record.

Contrary to our intentions, this has become a show mostly about white people — and while we’re at it, mostly straight, upper middle class white people.

On this episode, Host Willow Belden and Business Development Director Alex Eggerking sit down for an honest conversation about how we got here, and what we hope to change in the future.

 
It makes me feel like this well-intentioned but ultimately clueless white person.
— Alex Eggerking
 
We’re perpetuating problems, when we wanted to be doing the opposite.
— Willow Belden